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Patriocentric Beliefs

Note: I uncovered this post buried in my unfinished Drafts file. I can’t think of anything else to add, and I’m not sure what else I had planned, so I am just going to post it as is. It’s pretty self-explanatory.  I am praying that this year’s (2010) homeschool conference, set for March, is free of patriarchal theology, unlike the past few years’.

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Do I dare call them tenets of the faith? Considering their faith is founded on their own works, I think I dare not. These are just some random thoughts on what Rick Boyer spoke on at the conference:

Youth Groups Are Bad
I’ve already expounded on this: While I feel that it is important for kids to attend church with their parents, I also do feel that it’s important for them to be able to grow together and learn together too! Our youth group is large (150 kids, give or take a few, each Wednesday night), and it functions as it’s own church. The leadership is fantastic, the parent involvement is very high, and the students take ownership of the ministry by getting actively involved. Without this youth group, I know of many kids by name who would have never darkened the door of any church, never mind ours. And they are on fire for God!

Sunday School is Bad
Again, the Family-Integrated Church movement consistently pushes that everyone must worship together. This isn’t necessarily a BAD thing, but in large churches, it is difficult at best. Our church does a family service on every fifth Sunday of the year. Each month that has five Sundays, those are the ones we have family services. I love them! But do I want to do that all the time? Uh, no thank you. It is a fact that we grow and develop our Christian brotherly relationships when we are in small groups. Our children have that opportunity, and my 11th grader LOVES her Sunday School class because she DOES learn so much! They also attend services (6th grade & up are always in the main service, kids in children’s church) and that is a positive thing as well.

The Father is the Priest of the Home, the Center-of-it-All
I cannot even tell you what crosses my mind when I think about this! Not ALL men are the priests, nor would you want them to consider themselves priests, of their homes! Some men lead their families very well, some sadly do not, and some SHOULD NOT. It is the within this so-called Christian patriarchal doctrine where common sense gives way to ultimate authority, and the men have taken it upon themselves to BE that authority, rather than the Lord. That’s a scary prospect, and for a woman living under that and having no say whatsoever in her own life, it is a tragedy. And as much as we joke with our 14 year old that we have arranged her to marry a certain particular young man (and I emphasize JOKE!!!), we’d never dream of actually DOING that. It’s in fun, mainly because she doesn’t think much of this young man and has known him her entire life, and while we love his family, it is just all in good fun. She is free to marry whomever the Lord brings to her, however that works out (after college Lord, please let her wait until after college).

Dating is Bad
I’m sort of on the fence about this. I was an unsaved teenager who lived a pretty reckless lifestyle. I know firsthand what secular dating is. I also know that my kids know a whole lot more about themselves and about family values than I did. Because of this, our rule is no dating prior to 16, and at that time the potential young men are under close scrutiny, and Mom and Dad are involved in it. This means we get to know them, have them over, keep things under a group activities type situation with maybe a date dance (Homecoming, Winter Formal, etc.) but always supervised.

We also sit them down at the beginning, together AND separately, to have them define their personal boundaries for us. “I want to know NOW, What are your boundaries?” If they don’t know, we don’t give them a chance to pursue anything until they DO know. You can’t draw a line after things have started moving. Draw the lines, then proceed. If I notice that my daughter is forsaking her devotional time or other church activities for the boy, I will bring it to her attention immediately. She and a boy actually stopped seeing each other, on their own, because they both noticed they were doing just that. Good for them! I’m not 100% for teenagers dating, but it is do-able if parents stay involved. Really.

 

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Effects of Militant Fecundity on the Mother

As I have been studying this whole patriocentricity movement, I keep asking myself this question:

What EFFECT does having one baby after another have on the mother?

Often called Quiverfull or the Quiverfull movement, it is becoming more prevalent lately, particularly among homeschooling families. 

I well remember our “first round” of kids: My husband had two already, I had one, and we had one together. That was 4 kids under the age of 6. I remember cluster nursing while taming two year old tempers and trying to get dinner on the table while assisting with math homework and battling mastitis. When we adopted the boys (we got each one as a newborn) and had the chance “to do it all over again”, the first round kids ranged between 6-12. It was easier the second time, of course, but we remembered living in survival mode…. When we discussed raising the bigger ones, we remembered just trying to get through another day. So I asked myself, how in the world would having six kids under 7 (or 10 kids under 12?) affect the mother?  

Physical and emotional exhaustion, as this Newsweek online article, Extreme Motherhood, has this to say:

“…what’s problematic about Quiverfull for many is the position the movement relegates women to on its way there. Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff, a former Quiverfull writer who left the movement, says that the lifestyle is frequently one of unrelenting duty and labor that leaves women little recourse if the demands of their lives prove too much to bear. “The Quiverfull movement holds up as examples men like the Duggars … all men of means.

But for every family like this, there are ten or fifty or one hundred Quiverfull families living in what most would consider to be poverty … Mothers are in a constant cycle, often, of pregnancy, breastfeeding, and the care of toddlers.” Women are expected to feed and care for a large family on what are frequently limited resources, and the strain leads some to suffer clinical levels of exhaustion and self-neglect. The work that mothers can’t manage usually falls to their eldest daughters, who learn early that their role in life is domestic, as helpmeets to their parents and later their husbands, and as mothers to many children.”

The end of a mother’s sanity, as well as excommunication from the movement if the marriage ends. An interesting article at Women’s Space addresses the Andrea Yates case, among others: The Truth About Full-Quiver Families

“The full quiver people never talk about the victims of the movement, other than to distance themselves, to explain how it is that the victims are aberrations. They don’t talk about women like Andrea Yates and her children. Yates stoned her kids in her back yard, then drowned them, believing she was a terrible mother and that her children would be better off with God than with her. ”
“And above all, they don’t talk about the way the lives of so many, many women in that movement have been all but destroyed– women with 5, 7, 9, 11 or more children, women who lived sometimes for decades with abusive men who were then excommunicated, lost everything they had, when they divorced their abusers.”

Life-threatening complications with pregnancies are often considered just one of the risks, and the patriarchy-pushers insist that the women must have more faith and continue to reproduce, as this Salon.com article, All God’s Children, explains:

“Indeed, Mary Pride referred to her mothers as “maternal missionaries.”
Garrison (woman the article is about) complied. She’d had her first three children by cesarean section, but after coming to the Quiverfull conviction, she was swayed by the movement’s emphasis on natural (even unassisted home) birth. During one delivery, she suffered a partial uterine rupture and “felt like I’d been in a major battle with Satan, and he’d just about left me dead.” The doctor who treated Garrison lectured her for an hour not to conceive again, but she felt that stopping on her own would be rebellion. When she turned to her leaders for inspiration, she received a bleak message: that if she died doing her maternal duty, God would care for her family. For six months, she couldn’t look at the baby without crying.”

And that is the sad, sad part of this whole thing. A woman should never feel like crying when she looks at her baby. Children ARE a gift from God, but no where in the Bible does it say Thou must reproduce until your body is depleted and your mind has turned to mush. No where!

 Looking for more information on patriarchy? I compiled a list on Patriarchy and Legalism.

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Patriocentric View of Youth Groups

Do I dare call them tenets of the faith? Considering their faith is founded on their own works, I think I dare not. This is my first post in a series on what Rick Boyer spoke on at the conference. I have really felt like I need to address these things one by one.
kneelingFalsehood:  Youth Groups Are Bad
Our youth ministry is large. We have 120-150 students, grades 6-12, each Wednesday evening. Of these, less than half are regular Sunday church attenders. I estimate 2/3 are not followers of Christ, or at least they don’t walk what they claim to follow. And the majority of these unchurched kids also have unsaved parents who do not attend church. This mission field is wide open.

The patriocentric men will say “You should never expose your children to others who don’t follow Christ!” But Jesus said, “Go and make disciples of all nations” Mark 28:19. We do not disciple those who are following Christ closely; we disciple those who are far from him. The unbelievers. It would be an unfruitful church indeed, who overlooks this truth. Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Mark 2:17.

To isolate students completely from the entire world is unhealthy! That isn’t to say we cannot INsolate them, but what that entails is giving them the tools to reach others while ALSO giving them the foundation and protection to work from. As Pastor Jack Brooks stated in a comment here “We should re-study what the Bible teaches about the “separated” lifestyle, so that we know what it means to stay unspotted by the world, versus being afraid [of motocross jerseys and a little lip gloss.]” Without our youth group, I know of many kids by name who would have never darkened the door of any church, never mind ours. And they are on fire for God!

Youth groups serve a valuable purpose:
To teach students about Christ, disciple them, and show them how to live for Christ through preaching, teaching, and living out their faith. There is no perfect youth group… but if you are a parent whose speciality is “Shred the youth pastor”, maybe you should try showing a little grace and get your hands a little dirty. Teenagers aren’t scary. Most of them feel under-appreciated, especially when the world is telling them that their purpose in life is to act as immature and stupid as possible, while seeking a rockstar lifestyle. What they really want is to be noticed for who they are, as well as what they can contribute.

You cannot hide your kids away from the world. They must learn to function IN it, but that doesn’t mean they are OF it. And reaching others for Christ not only teaches them leadership, but it also gives them PURPOSE, to serve God and glorify Him. The only father we are to glorify is our Heavenly Father.

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Unsheltered Homeschooling

Last year, at the homeschool conference, my husband and I ran the cafe while our 13 year old J handled my used curriculum table. She’s quite capable and friendly, and she did a great job. I split the profits with her. ;)

Looking around at homeschool functions, I’ve always noticed those families. You know the ones: Neatly dressed Mom and Dad, stair-step children and the girls all in dresses. From the outside they APPEAR to be the ideal, or at least I thought that years ago when we first began homeschooling.

A family like this had a two-table area at the sale, apparently selling books from their family business. J sat at our table, directly across the aisle from them. I checked in on her several times, always asking how things were going. The second time, she said, “Mom, those girls keep staring at me.”

J was 13 at the time. She was wearing a Yamaha motocross jersey, blue jeans with ripped knees, and makeup (not much though.) She said that “One of the girls about my age came over to look at your books, and when I asked her if she is looking for something in particular, her eyes got really big and she turned around and walked straight back her her table! It’s like she was afraid of me Mom.” Afraid of J? The friendliest kid in the world? I didn’t quite get it at the time, but told her that they are isolated, which was fairly obvious, and not used to talking to kids their family doesn’t know. It was actually this particular weekend that I found an article online about “Cloistered Homeschoolers”. I realized that is exactly what these lovely girls (and boys) were.

When we tell someone we homeschool, the “S” word inevitably comes up. “What about Socialization?” Well, what about it? My kids socialize more than I do. My kids have tons of friends and are involved in church, sports, volunteering, and just life in general. The socialization I have seen them experience WITHIN the walls of public schools concerns me much more than their socialization outside of those walls. Outside the walls, I know who they are with and what they are doing.

Do I control them, or micromanage? No. But I know what my kids are up to. If I suspect that a friend who has invited them to something isn’t quite forthcoming with information, or possibly being deceptive, I contact parents and get exact details. I’m nosey that way. I would expect every responsible parent to be the same way.

The trouble here, of course, was that these children were SO sheltered that they were, quite literally, afraid to speak to my daughter. They didn’t recognize her as “one of them”, and I suspect their parents had probably used my daughter as some sort of bad example to them too. Even the parents seemed to look down their noses at my tomboy daughter, whose heart–if they could see it– belonged to Jesus in it’s entirety. But what they looked at was her outside, saw the jeans, and automatically made assumptions. THIS is bad socialization. THIS is unhealthy!

My children are not, nor have they ever been, isolated. They learned from a young age how to address an adult, how to shake hands, how to make eye contact and respond when someone speaks to them, no matter what the age of the person. While we prefer that their closest friends be Christian kids whose families share our values, we don’t shun all others. We are just careful about what situations they go into with them; namely, organized, supervised, and planned activities with beginning and ending times.

We don’t throw our kids to the wolves, but then again we don’t hide them away either. You can be a protective parent without shielding your child unnecessarily. This is UNSheltered Homeschooling. Combine this with ThatMom’s Thoughts on Relationship Homeschooling, and you will raise well-adjusted, loving and outgoing kids who can handle pretty much anything. Even a curriculum sale and a chat with a kid who doesn’t dress the same way they do!

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